tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post6662951091864055948..comments2024-01-03T09:00:35.413+00:00Comments on Adrian's Images: GOLD. (22/06/16)ADRIANhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-32142032104200319892016-06-23T16:35:01.563+01:002016-06-23T16:35:01.563+01:00Mark it's not weird. I can't imagine anyon...Mark it's not weird. I can't imagine anyone voting for the personalities involved. The turnout will be interesting if it gets near 75% then I think we can say MPs are of little relevance. <br />The economy will not crash, the money generated will still be generated or printed as it has been. The advantage I see is that we no longer have to support all the dead wood so more of the quantitative easing can be spent at home. We won't have to have contracts awarded to Spain using Swedish steel for stuff the UK government are procuring. <br />Time will tell but I suspect that we will see little change if we leave but if we remain the danger is that the EU will collapse. I can't see how it can survive. ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-35170491363524050082016-06-23T16:21:56.602+01:002016-06-23T16:21:56.602+01:00It's weird I agree with everything you said th...It's weird I agree with everything you said there, but my conclusion from that is to vote remain. Yes the gap is getting wider, with no justification on the salaries for those at the top. The problem is that leaving is likely to make our economy crash and that tends to disproportionately affect the less well of which widens the gap further. Staying in is likely to have less of an effect on our economy while maintaining our ability to trade freely, which in an ideal world, would help to close the gap between rich and poor.<br /><br />As you say though it's become less about the EU and more about sticking one up to those in charge, or voting depending on which side your favourite politician is, which are all the wrong reasons! It's the most important vote any of us will ever cast and many of us are voting the way we are for completely the wrong reason. I hope like crazy that I'm wrong, but I feel many people are going to be seriously disappointed with the way they voted in years to come.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02418527698793489162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-28410388641711963112016-06-23T14:58:03.640+01:002016-06-23T14:58:03.640+01:00The quality of the debate reflects the quality of ...The quality of the debate reflects the quality of our politicians. They are with the exception of St Jo of Spin total numpties. <br />Normal folk who have something constructive to do with their lives can have a grand argument whilst mending machinery or driving strainers for a new fence without very much animosity at all. I accept that I'm a complete fuckwit as I'm Yorkshire and much brighter than the ignorant Scots I'm surrounded by. <br />I am pretty sure that when the dust has settled on Saturday life will go on but the talking heads will be regarded as irrelevant, ignorant, out of touch and not worth a kick up the bum. This vote has become more an expression of support for or dissatisfaction with our established rulers. The gap between the haves and havenots is wide and getting wider whilst the haves appear to have very little justification for the salaries they command.<br /><br />ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-75976787053889774192016-06-23T14:34:23.523+01:002016-06-23T14:34:23.523+01:00I'm with Graham on this one. Whichever way the...I'm with Graham on this one. Whichever way the vote goes the country is already worse than it was before the referendum. Viewed from the outside (I speak to many other Europeans on a regular basis) we've become a nation of xenophobic racists, where MP's are murdered for wanting to stay in. If we thought divisions in society were bad after the Scottish referendum then they will pale into insignificance against the scars that have been formed by this debate.<br /><br />What makes me most angry is that the debate could have been so much better. Both sides have been shown to be stating lies or exaggerations over and over again. Most people no longer really know what the debate is truly about and so are voting based in misunderstandings, and will be righly angered when they realise they have been duped (this is regardless of which way you've voted).Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02418527698793489162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-77442265272712672902016-06-23T14:14:48.811+01:002016-06-23T14:14:48.811+01:00I am usually an eternal optimist Adrian but I wish...I am usually an eternal optimist Adrian but I wish I shared yours just now.Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-81291964552706275932016-06-23T13:57:28.239+01:002016-06-23T13:57:28.239+01:00Frances, whatever the result I suspect the country...Frances, whatever the result I suspect the country will change for the better.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-76268609432440054172016-06-23T13:56:29.522+01:002016-06-23T13:56:29.522+01:00John, there have been some good cartoons but most ...John, there have been some good cartoons but most are not fit for wider circulation.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-74649890842093885382016-06-23T13:55:35.062+01:002016-06-23T13:55:35.062+01:00Graham, I suspect it was on it's last wings. I...Graham, I suspect it was on it's last wings. It was not very active.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-66650151617315958542016-06-23T13:41:26.041+01:002016-06-23T13:41:26.041+01:00Yes! Vote out! We can govern ourselves, can't ...Yes! Vote out! We can govern ourselves, can't we? After all, we did it for hundreds of years.<br /><br />Nice moth. Frances Garroodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10614916006798375706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-47903906537738174072016-06-23T12:30:46.532+01:002016-06-23T12:30:46.532+01:00Haha to the football graphic. Very funny.Haha to the football graphic. Very funny.Anvilcloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07974744042579564912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-77420877149943347582016-06-23T11:50:15.608+01:002016-06-23T11:50:15.608+01:00The moth looks rather the worse for wear. Very goo...The moth looks rather the worse for wear. Very good capture though. Graham Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11196744947133121475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-67812774523322118772016-06-23T08:34:36.878+01:002016-06-23T08:34:36.878+01:00Margaret, moths can be awkward as they are wary an...Margaret, moths can be awkward as they are wary and also tend to hide under leaves.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-57810996765647704962016-06-23T08:33:05.925+01:002016-06-23T08:33:05.925+01:00Busy here as well John. I am surprised that the ru...Busy here as well John. I am surprised that the rural community is for leave or the ones I've asked are. Only the Doctor is for stay but then she works for the government. Still plenty of time for fiddling yet.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-10024019111316296132016-06-23T08:29:52.128+01:002016-06-23T08:29:52.128+01:00Lovely shots of the Moth.Lovely shots of the Moth.Margaret Birding For Pleasurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00400663056547331997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-28541850841942265402016-06-23T08:08:39.130+01:002016-06-23T08:08:39.130+01:00Brilliant all round. Went to vote about 7.10 a.m.....Brilliant all round. Went to vote about 7.10 a.m.. A steady trickle of people already so it could be a large turnout.Midmarsh Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10980417659811194899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-50229873901453178322016-06-23T07:12:32.850+01:002016-06-23T07:12:32.850+01:00Trevor, they are grand little moths.
Yes the monke...Trevor, they are grand little moths.<br />Yes the monkey enclosure will be back to normal next week. ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-18703458749562256002016-06-23T07:09:21.608+01:002016-06-23T07:09:21.608+01:00Pauline it's easy. The European Parliament col...Pauline it's easy. The European Parliament collects lots of our money. They piss what they can away then give us a bit back. Shooting is too good for them.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-37278512446353803072016-06-23T07:07:11.304+01:002016-06-23T07:07:11.304+01:00Marie, they are amazing little creatures far more ...Marie, they are amazing little creatures far more use then politicians.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-48030907008447581382016-06-23T06:20:52.957+01:002016-06-23T06:20:52.957+01:00Lovely shot of the pretty little (White-barred Gol...Lovely shot of the pretty little (White-barred Gold) moth Adrian.<br /><br />Whatever the result of the vote I guess the kindergarten (or baby school if we're 'out'?) will be open for business again on Friday for another round of the...name calling, finger pointing, arse licking, back stabbing, denying, lying, backtracking... pleasant and civilised political debates that we all know and love?...[;o{The Heraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393815486440597141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-887600835737387862016-06-23T04:40:19.779+01:002016-06-23T04:40:19.779+01:00I don't understand the arguments for or agains...I don't understand the arguments for or against but at least it makes something more interesting than the Trump fiasco to watch from Down Under. Paulinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15276284964859313257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-52834348528408895262016-06-22T23:33:15.012+01:002016-06-22T23:33:15.012+01:00Beautiful little moth.
Good luck with the vote!Beautiful little moth.<br /><br />Good luck with the vote!Marie Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03882722634065183364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-49429951966026691302016-06-22T18:52:02.053+01:002016-06-22T18:52:02.053+01:00Mark, Gove is a nasty bit of work as is IDS. Camer...Mark, Gove is a nasty bit of work as is IDS. Cameron is a lying little shite and Osborne is useless and vindictive with it.<br />The EU really does next to nothing. It collects a vast amount of money, skims the top off and redistributes it. The world is a far larger place than the EC, I believe that it's protectionism benefits large established companies but inhibits growth.<br />Not to worry there is a large powerful interest that will make it impossible to leave.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-17660824797193241002016-06-22T17:24:49.154+01:002016-06-22T17:24:49.154+01:00Their most important job is to reign in the worst ...Their most important job is to reign in the worst excesses of our own politicians and I think you'll agree that's a full time job. Joking aside they do an awful lot fr us. The competition commission for instance makes sure we don't get ripped off when dealing with foreign companies (mobile roaming charges are a good example). They help to organize large science projects across the EU as another example. Essentially they make us part of a wider world. The point is listing what they do for us would take forever, listing the downsides (extra politicians being the most obvious) is much easier. The benefits far outweigh the problems and pretty much every expert from the military, economy, science, business etc. agrees. Only Gove things we should ignore the experts but he had to use the Nazis to try and prove his point which instantly disqualifies him from civilized society.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02418527698793489162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-62168540472369426412016-06-22T16:46:05.827+01:002016-06-22T16:46:05.827+01:00Mark, my only real objection to the EU is the prol...Mark, my only real objection to the EU is the proliferation of unaccountable bureaucrats. If we get a dozen in Brussels then we ought to lose a dozen from Westminster. The same with the Scottish, Welsh and N.I. assemblies. What in the name of reason do they find to do?<br />It will all settle down.ADRIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113961163396562781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8060152237863452651.post-16074727214441027282016-06-22T14:39:55.269+01:002016-06-22T14:39:55.269+01:00The football one had me in stitches! I think the l...The football one had me in stitches! I think the leave campaign should take pointers from you as then at least their arguments would make sense and wouldn't be referencing Nazi propaganda to try and make their point -- Gove yesterday was well out of line (I signed that petition) and the less said about Farage's poster the better.<br /><br />I still thinking voting leave is a mistake, an unbelievably terrible mistake, but hopefully whatever the outcome we can still all be friends on Friday morning; although given the tone of both campaigns I think we are going to be left with some serious societal scars for years to come :(Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02418527698793489162noreply@blogger.com